Rev 4 Turbo Algae Scrubber Availability and Pricing

The latest version of my Turbo Algae Scrubbers is referred to as the “Rev 4” – The L2, L4 and L8 are all in production!

The L16 is currently under very limited production – contact me if you are interested in this size.

In order to inquire about a unit, get on the Waiting List, place an order, or just ask a question, please open a Support Ticket – follow the instructions here:

http://www.turbosaquatics.com/ordering.html

^^ this is as simple as sending me an email, which is listed on that page.  I can gather your information later if you wish.

Unit Prices and Shipping

The following prices are my former “introductory” prices – I made a decision to keep them at this price, rather than raise them slightly.

However, as of February 1st 2018, I have had to bump up shipping prices slightly ($5) due to an increase in shipping rates.

L2 Retail Price:$399
*Shipping: $25 (US lower 48 only)

L4 Retail Price:$549
*Shipping: $35 (US lower 48 only)

L8 Retail Price:$849
*Shipping: $45 (US lower 48 only)

L16 Retail Price:$1349
*Shipping: $60 (US lower 48 only)

Shipping is calculated on a case by case basis outside the CONUS (US lower 48).

For a general estimate on international shipping:

  • Add $40 for shipping to Alaska or Hawaii
  • Add $50 for shipping to Canada
  • Add $80 for shipping to the UK, EU, Central America, South America, Singapore, Russia, etc
  • Add $100 for shipping to Australia or the Middle East

You can read about my scrubbers, get the latest updates, see answers to other people’s questions, and see customer pictures of installed units in the following forum threads:

Algae Scrubbing Forum Thread

Reef2Reef Forum Thread (Sponsor)

Pump Recommendations and Pricing

Flow recommendations are as follows.  Note that these figured reflect the actual flow delivered to the screen after all head losses.

For the L2, you want 210 GPH +/- 20 GPH, roughly.  You can go as high as 300 GPH.
For the L4 and larger, you want 420 GPH +/- 30 GPH, roughly.  You can go as high as 600 GPH.

Initially, a lower flow rate will help to keep the unit quiet and keep flow even across the screen.  As the screen matures, you can increase the flow if needed.  Therefore, you have quite a range of pumps that will work.

If you are looking for the pump that best fits your setup and preferences, start by finding a head-loss chart.  Calculate the vertical head (distance from the top of the water in which the pump is operating to the centerline of the slot pipe) and then add 24″.  24″ represents a rough approximation head-loss associated with the slot pipe and any elbows and plumbing parts along the way.  Locate the point on the curve that represents this head level to determine if the pump you are considering will meet your needs.

I provide a Two Little Fishies 3/4″ Ball Valve with every scrubber so that you may dial back the flow if needed.

I stock Rio Plus UL pumps.  Their head loss chart is located on the Specification tab on their website

In general, here are my recommendations:

L2 with standard vertical head (say, ~12″): Rio 1100
L2 with high vertical head (24″ vertical): Rio 1400

L4 with standard vertical head (also ~12″): Rio 1700
L4 with high vertical head: Rio 2100

L8 with standard vertical head (~16″): Rio 2100
L8 with high vertical head: Rio 2500

L16 with standard vertical head (~24″): Rio 2100 or 2500
L16 with high vertical head: Rio 2500
L16 with very high vertical head: Rio 3100

Pump Pricing: valid only for pumps purchased with scrubber

Rio 1100: $ 30
Rio 1400: $ 35
Rio 1700: $ 45
Rio 2100: $ 52
Rio 2500: $ 60
Rio 3100: $ 73

Mounting Rails

For information on my extruded PVC Rails for mounting your scrubber over a sump, please see this article:

Support / Mounting Brackets (Rails)

Detailed measurements of L4, L8 and L16 Base

I frequently get requests for dimensions – usually, what you really need to know is exactly how to mount one of my scrubbers.

Below you will find a series of pictures of the Base that is used for the L4, L8, and L16.  The same Base is used for each size (the L2 is shorter in length).

Please note that this is not how this particular part actually arrives: these only show the Base itself.

Length: Approximately 16.75″

Width: Approximately 5″ (actual: 4.875″ without LED Lights; 6″ with LED lights installed)

Underside of base (drain center locations shown)

Drain extensions match the outer dimension of 2″ PVC pipe

Drains are centered on bottom

Primary drain center: 9.5″ as measured from Secondary Drain end:

Secondary Drain Center (1.5″ from end)

What is the mortar screen?

The Mortar Screen allows for your Algae Scrubber to mature in 2 stages: a fast initial stage, followed by a more gradual secondary stage.

The Mortar Screen is #7 Plastic Canvas (knitting canvas) that has been roughed up and then coated with mortar.  The mortar has been allowed to cure (not dry) for 2-3 days, then the screen has been soaked in RODI water for 3-5 days.  The result is a microscopically rough screen that is still flexible.

The mortar is a sacrificial layer that allows algae to start growing in days instead of weeks.  Algae will typically coat 50-75% of the screen within 7-10 days.  During the first few cleanings, the mortar will start to release from the screen (and go in the trash or down the sink, along with the algae harvested).

As the canvas screen is exposed more and more with each subsequent cleaning, these areas of the screen will mature until the whole screen is covered with a more permanent base layer of algae (this usually takes 4-6 weeks).  Eventually, most of the mortar will release from the screen.

Choosing a scrubber size

Probably the most frequently asked questions is “what size scrubber do I need for my system?”  This is sometimes an easy answer, but in many cases the answer is “it depends”.

My scrubbers are sized primarily according to the level of feeding.  If you go here http://algaescrubber.zohosites.com/planning-your-algae-scrubber.html and scroll about 1/2 way down, you will see a more in-depth description of “cube” and some other equivalent amounts for various types of foods that can help you estimate your total feeding level.

I would really love to see the entire filtration industry switch over to this sizing methodology that has been generally adopted by Algae Scrubber folks…but yeah, probably not going to happen!!

I do have a more in-depth methodology that is roughed out in my head regarding this question – because it is a common one.  One of the issues though is that my “formula” tends to work well for my scrubbers, but it doesn’t necessarily translate to a DIY scrubber, which is why I haven’t developed it into something for general use quite yet.

Based on experience and feedback, here are some rough “dividing lines”

L2: good for tanks up to 120 to 150 gallons that are fed ~2 cubes/day, possibly a bit more feeding.

L4: good for tanks up to 250-300 gallons fed ~4 cubes/day

L8: tanks up to about 500g fed ~8 cubes/day

L16: up to 1000g systems fed ~16 cubes/day

Now given that, there are some adjustment factors that you can take into account.

The first is other filtration. If you have other “primary” filtration components, these are obviously going to take up some of the filtration load. These can be live rock, skimmer, biopellets or other carbon dosing, filter socks, auto-water-change systems, denitrators, phosphate reactors/GFO, carbon, macro refugiums, you name it.

So for example, if you have a 200g tank with a big skimmer (200-250g rated) and a biopellet reactor and you feed 4 cubes/day, you might be able to use an L2 because that skimmer and reactor are going to take up a good chunk of the load. But, you could also get an L4 and then the scrubber might take on a more complementary or possibly primary role, or give you room to grow, or serve as a fail-safe system.

Now let’s say you have a moderate sized skimmer (100-150g rated) and no BP reactor, now you likely to need the L4 as the scrubber is going to act more like primary filtration with the skimmer being complementary to the scrubber (but there are some really good 150g rated skimmers also…)

Another factor is tank turnover rate – this is probably only an issue when you are in the range of 100-300g. If you look at the total flow across the screen in GPH and then divide that by the system volume, you get a tank turnover rate (it’s not full-pass turnover, but anyways…). IMO you want this number to be > 1.0. So if an L2 need ~200 GPH and your tank is 200g, that’s a TTR=1 which is a bit low, but its’ OK. If you are at 250g, then it’s TTR=200/250=0.8, while an L4 at 400+ GPH would be TTR=400/250=1.6, much better. Once you get to the 300-400g range, that’s when the L4 TTR starts to close on 1.0, but when you jump to the L8 that doesn’t change because the unit length is the same, but the screen is 2x as tall so you get a longer contact time per pass.

Next you have other factors like persistent nutrient problems, a very neglected tank, or major algae problems. These tend to either bump you up a unit in size, but that is a temporary thing so I try to steer people who are in those situations to choose a unit that suits their “ideal” situation rather than view the scrubber as a “problem fixer”. A scrubber can be that, in the long term, but in the short term sometimes you just have to do what needs to be done to get on the path to that ideal situation then set yourself up for long term success.

Tanks that are larger than 300 gallons are typically expert-level systems, and are likely to have robust filtration systems.  In systems like this, just about every filtration component is going to play a complementary role.  There will likely not be a true “primary” method established, so the choice of scrubber size is typically more subjective.

While I hope this helps, I am always here to help you size a scrubber for your specific system!